Who we are
Neill’s bike fit service was established to present an alternative to the regimented, mass-produced bike fit services currently offered across the country.
Too often these fits include measurements of knee angles, the famous “Knee Over Pedal Spindle” plumb line fit and other such nonsense ideas which seem to have no foundation whatsoever in human biomechanical function and appear to have been ingrained into bike fitting culture merely through repetition. Further training with Steve Hogg in Sydney undertaken in April 2015 has extended my knowledge base considerably and I am now a proud “Approved” Steve Hogg bike fitter. Steve’s unusual but effective methods of increasing neurological symmetry and optimising biomechanical function utilise patented methods of foot correct and are of benefit to every rider. For more information about Steve and his bike fit philosophy, visit his website here; www.stevehoggbikefitting.com.au
I have raced at a state and club level in Victoria for many years and know what it takes to perform at your best. My interest in bike positioning stems from my own unusual problems on the bike which manifested as severe hip and knee pain. Overcoming these challenges with Steve Hogg’s help many years ago piqued my interest in this unusual area of human mechanics and has lead me to my current position – helping riders go faster, with less pain and greater efficiency. My own positional problems were extremely unusual and difficult to resolve, proving the hardest rider to fit is usually yourself!
Currently we are in a transition phase of moving to south-east Queensland and in the new year, 2020, Neill will be working from Cam’s Cycling Collective in Fortitude Valley, Brisbane on a regular basis. Our clinic in Flemington, Melbourne is currently winding down in preparation for the move north.
Our Philosophy of position.
My bike fits are individualised. I don’t use mathematical or computer-generated knee/hip/torso angle rules because rules only tend to be OK for around 1/3 of the population who sit in the very middle of the bell curve of flexibility, strength and function – and these are often not the ones who have issues on the bike! I spend a substantial amount of time during each fit taking a history of injuries, cycling goals and aspirations, past problems and on-bike issues. I then assess your body in terms of mechanical symmetry, functional symmetry, neurological imbalance and cycling style.
I use my skills and knowledge of human function and biomechanics to integrate the bicycle to your body, not the other way around. The end result is to achieve the highest level of functional symmetry that you can possibly perform with – that is both legs are performing as smoothly, equally and with as much control as possible on the bike. Your upper body should be unloaded, with little or no weight borne on the arms and back.
The comfort advantages are obvious – vastly lowered chances of developing painful injuries, less muscle tightness and fatigue are the most obvious to the rider. Thankfully, this fit will also make you faster. As both legs work smoothly and with full control, more power is developed to push on the pedals. The torso is unloaded through careful positioning, freeing up valuable blood flow to divert to the muscles that are driving the bike forwards. The upper body is free of load which allows greater breathing efficiency and oxygen delivery to the muscles demanding it. You develop more power, with no pain except that of normal exertion, and you get back to what cycling really should be all about – enjoyment.
Nobody is symmetrical, yet the bicycle is a perfectly symmetrical apparatus. There is no other sport or activity you will ever do in your life which requires such high degrees of functional symmetry. It stands to reason that any on-bike instability, asymmetry or imbalance will, over time and given enough load and repetition, manifest as a niggle, a pain, or a serious injury.
Each hour of cycling on a road bike will result in your hips, knees and feet performing anywhere from 4000-7000 repetitions of movement depending on your cadence. Such numbers tend to bring out any small issues in your body, often the first manifestation is tightness, excessive soreness or fatigue after a ride in one area and so on. The last thing in line is usually pain. Pain is what happens when you run out of compensation strategies to get around your inadequacies on the bike.
Everyone has inadequacies, nobody is perfect – some come close but none are flawless. If you struggle from on-bike pain, discomfort or would simply like to perform faster and better at any level – this is the bike fit for you. We love seeing clients who have had “professional” fits elsewhere with poor results.
I like to tell my clients that fitting riders to bikes is easy – as long as the rider is perfectly symmetrical. Of course, this is never the case and hence the complexity of dealing with, and resolving assymetries is our primary challenge when it comes to fitting a rider to a bike.
Neill offers a full money-back guarantee – and unlimited returns to the clinic for positional tweaks over the 3 months following the setup if you choose the longer, more detailed fitting option as described below.
Typically we will set you up and then allow your body to “habituate” to the new position over 4 – 6 weeks of moderate cycling. You then return for a further hour’s positional check to make sure that the new motor patterns have “taken” well and the body is functioning as expected.
If there are any small issues that have cropped up as your function changes in the following weeks, we will address these and get the absolute most out of your fit. If you are still unsatisfied after allowing us to perfect your position a few times, and your issue remains unresolved, we will refund your fit costs and return your bike to its old geometry. In this way we ensure the very highest standard of care and guarantee your satisfaction.
“But shouldn’t the fit be perfect right out of the box?
Why do I have to come back?”
Unfortunately the human body is a constantly changing apparatus. The asymmetries that your body presents with when you enter our clinic will not be the same asymmetries that you present with in 6 months’ time. You will adapt to the new position, and as you adapt your body will change. Tightness will release in your hips, legs, lower back and so on and your function on the bike will change. The way you function off the bike will also change – your gait will usually become more symmetrical if there were marked imbalances due to poor bike position.
The new motor sequences that your body is using to push on the pedals will “embed” over 4-6 weeks of moderate cycling and you will begin to develop more power, for greater duration over the pedal stroke. As you change, the fit will change as well. Usually this process requires 4-6 weeks but it can be even longer in some riders if their asymmetries are longstanding and well regimented in their movement patterns. You can read more about this here.
Pricing & fit information
We offer two main levels of fitting service, a “quick and dirty” setup which will require 2 hours of your time and costs $395, and a “full service” setup which is 3 hours long and will cost $495. If you are concerned that you are going to be extremely difficult to fit, or have multiple bikes and shoes, we can extend the times without difficulty – please email me with any specific questions about this.
A “quick and dirty” setup is ideal for those who ride moderately on weekends, and aren’t suffering from any complicated biomechanical issues. If you’ve no history of severe injury to either hip/knee/ankle, ride less than 200km per week and have a mild or moderate niggle or two, this is the session for you. Due to the quick nature of the fit session, I cannot offer a money-back guarantee that this will solve your issues but it will tend to get you at least 90% of the way there, and in most cases closer to 100%.
If you have a complicated biomechanical injury, involving major fractures of hip/knee/ankle or large muscle injuries for example, and you’ve visited other bike fitters who were not able to satisfactorily resolve your issues on the bike, I would urge you to consider the “full service” setup. Complex biomechanical assymetries can be difficult and time-consuming to completely resolve, and often the extra time is money well spent. An example is a rider who has a fractured lower leg from a motorbike accident, a torsioned tibia and a moderate to large leg length discrepancy with associated severe muscle imbalances. This rider will need extra time and effort spent during the fitting process to get them 100%, and should seriously consider the “full service” setup.
If you have any doubts about which fitting session is best for you, please email me at email@example.com or via the contact button on the toolbar above to discuss the options. I’m happy to phone you back if it’s complicated – please leave your mobile number and we’ll talk in greater detail on the phone.
Any further follow-up tweaks needed (beyond the 3 month mark post-fit) are book on an hourly basis at a flat fee of $120 per hour.
The fitting prices include a pair of G8 Archtech 2600 or Sofsoles Fit Series arch support modules to fit your feet, virtually everybody will benefit from arch support – please see HERE for why.
A portion of the cost MAY be rebateable depending on the level of private health cover you have. We suggest calling your health fund before your appointment as many of the funds are no longer choosing to cover bike fitting biomechanical assessments as a cost-cutting measure. When enquiring with your health fund, you will need to quote the treatment code “500 Initial Consultation” and my provider number, 2862689Y. The rebateable portion of the treatment cost is $357 for the Full Fit, and $257 for the Quick and Dirty, as custom orthotics such as the G8 inner soles are not considered part of the treatment process and thus cannot be rebated on health insurance.
You will need to bring the following items with you on the day;
Yourself and your bike.
Your regular riding knicks – ladies if you have them, please wear short knicks not bib knicks. A sports bra or singlet top is perfect – I will need to be able to examine the movement of your back and pelvis whilst on the bike.
Any sunglasses or prescription lenses you use for cycling (wear your contacts if you use them whilst on the bike).
Your cycling shoes and any additional pairs that you will want to use whilst on the bike so that I can create the ideal foot correction and cleat placement in each pair.
Any stems/bars/pedals you have lying around which may be of use to us on the day – rather than buying a new stem for example, if you already have one at home of the correct length then we might as well use it!
ALL clients will need positional changes on the bike. Some clients will need LARGE positional changes on the bike. If you are one of these, and the optimum position means that your stem is too long or short, or your bar width is far too wide or narrow, or your seat setback cannot be adjusted far enough forwards or backwards on your current seatpost, or your saddle is creating excessive instability of your pelvis on the bike for example, then I will recommend that you purchase one or more items from us on the day which will allow the required positional changes to happen. I supply fitting-related items at wholesale prices to my clients during the session as required.
I live in Egypt/USA/Europe/Scandinavia/Peru and have a video camera and a stationary trainer – will do you do a remote fitting?
This simply does not work to any degree of accuracy, for two primary reasons. Firstly, the framerate and resolution of compressed video files means that high-speed, subtle motion patterns such as cycling do not come across cleanly and make the whole process close to impossible. Secondly, there is no method by which I can reliably assess you physically from a distance to determine which physical traits you present with may be causing which motion pattern to occur. Trying to figure out if you have a shorter left leg for example is next to impossible from a distance. Hence, I don’t offer remote fittings as the level of quality would be so poor as to render the process embarrassingly useless
Do you have any recommendations for high quality fitters in Sydney/Perth/Melbourne/Hobart etc?
I can highly recommend Steve Hogg in Canberra who is as close to a bike fitting genius as you will find. I can also strongly recommend Aaron Dunford at Fusion Peak Cycle Fitting in Sydney who has been through the same training process as myself from Steve many years ago. I have no strong recommendations in other major cities at the moment as I, along with Steve and Aaron, tend to see a reasonably steady trickle of riders from all of the other states who have struggled to find anybody talented in their locality.
Do you offer bike fit training?
As yet, no – simply because of a lack of time. I have been approached multiple times for fit training but due to time constraints, a young family and a huge lead time I am not taking one-on-one fit training clients as yet. In the future this may change!